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[[Utente:Jcwf|Jcwf]] <small>([[User talk:Jcwf|disc.]])</small> 23:07, 11 giu 2019 (CEST)
: Hi {{Ping|Jcwf}}, thanks for your edits.
: Hi {{Ping|Jcwf}}, thanks for your edits. I fixed {{Tl|Nl-decl-agg}}, usually we put the inflection tables on the right, just below the -section- template (such as {{Tl|-agg-}}): see i.e. the use of {{Tl|Tabs}} in [[nuovo]], or of {{Tl|La-decl-agg}} in [[frigidus]]. I think it is probably better to use a specific template for dutch, instead of Tabs, since having a template for each language simplifies the management. A note on policy: the section order is alphabetical, so -agg- or -agg form- comes before -sost-, -sost- before -verb- or -verb form- and so on. For comparatives and superlative, might be used the templates {{Tl|Comparativo di}} and {{Tl|Superlativo di}}, wich add the category: see i.e. [[chillier]], [[chilliest]]. Since Dutch has inflected forms of comparatives, those templates could probably be put in the "plain" form, which I assume are [[nieuwer]] and [[nieuwst]], and the others could go without (otherwise the category would soon be overcrowded).
::Thank you so much!
: now on grammar; I fixed the pages, the main thing you may have to pay attention to is the concordance between genders: "[https://it.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=nieuwere&type=revision&diff=3561017&oldid=3560928 automobile]" is feminine, so the adjective (and the article) must be feminine too (I think it is the same in German). Other things are more subtle: [https://it.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=nieuwere&type=revision&diff=3561017&oldid=3560928 here] "l'automobile il più nuova" is wrong, when the superlative is use as the attribute of a noun, the article goes with the noun only; this is difficult to explain, but it is quite as in English; as an example:
: Hi {{Ping|Jcwf}}, thanks for your edits. I fixed {{Tl|Nl-decl-agg}}, usually we put the inflection tables on the right, just below the -section- template (such as {{Tl|-agg-}}): see i.e. the use of {{Tl|Tabs}} in [[nuovo]], or of {{Tl|La-decl-agg}} in [[frigidus]]. I think it is probably better to use a specific template for dutch, instead of Tabs, since having a template for each language simplifies the management. A note on policy: the section order is alphabetical, so -agg- or -agg form- comes before -sost-, -sost- before -verb- or -verb form- and so on. For comparatives and superlative, might be used the templates {{Tl|Comparativo di}} and {{Tl|Superlativo di}}, wich add the category: see i.e. [[chillier]], [[chilliest]]. Since Dutch has inflected forms of comparatives, those templates could probably be put in the "plain" form, which I assume are [[nieuwer]] and [[nieuwst]], and the others could go without (otherwise the category would soon be overcrowded).
::I'll try and stick to policy as much as possible, given that I don't always know it... Thanks for the template tip.
: now on grammar; I fixed the pages, the main thing you may have to pay attention to is the concordance between genders: "[https://it.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=nieuwere&type=revision&diff=3561017&oldid=3560928 automobile]" is feminine, so the adjective (and the article) must be feminine too (I think it is the same in German).
::Actually the page on [[automobile]] said it could be both ''m'' and ''f'', so I had to choose... No, it is not quite the same in German or Dutch. We do not have accordance unless the adjective ''precedes'' the noun. So, not as predicate e.g. In Middle Dutch the adjective could also follow the noun: een jongvrouw ''schoon'' and was not inflected then. In Modern Dutch this is uncommon, except in poetry occasionally.
: now on grammar; I fixed the pages, the main thing you may have to pay attention to is the concordance between genders: "[https://it.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=nieuwere&type=revision&diff=3561017&oldid=3560928 automobile]" is feminine, so the adjective (and the article) must be feminine too (I think it is the same in German). Other things are more subtle: [https://it.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=nieuwere&type=revision&diff=3561017&oldid=3560928 here] "l'automobile il più nuova" is wrong, when the superlative is use as the attribute of a noun, the article goes with the noun only; this is difficult to explain, but it is quite as in English; as an example:
:* questa automobile è più nuova di quella... (comparative): this car is newer than that
:* questa è l'automobile più nuova (superlative, attributive): this is the newest car
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:* voglio l'automobile più nuova: of all the cars I saw/that are here etc., I want the newest one
:* voglio un'automobile nuovissima: I want a really, really new car
:: In Dutch you can stress the newness by saying ''allernieuwste'' (newest of all) and many adjectives have similar intensive forms, but that is for another day.
: I think this is all... I hope I did not confuse you too much (but I fear I did!), if you need additional explanations do not hesitate to ask! Thank you again for all the contributions you will want to make, bye, --[[Utente:Barbaking|Barbaking]] <small>([[User talk:Barbaking|disc.]])</small> 09:45, 12 giu 2019 (CEST)
:: oh, I forgot, you asked if the inflection table needed to be repeated on each flexion page; there is no rule... for italian inflections we usually do, see i.e. [[nuove]], for latin we don't, see i.e. [[frigidae]]... I personally think it is not necessary, following the links you land on the main, non inflected form page with the table and that is sufficient, in my opinion... --
:::OK, that sounds like a sensible choice to me. Thanks again Barbaking! [[Utente:BarbakingJcwf|BarbakingJcwf]] <small>([[User talk:BarbakingJcwf|disc.]])</small> 0921:4923, 12 giu 2019 (CEST)
--[[Utente:Barbaking|Barbaking]] <small>([[User talk:Barbaking|disc.]])</small> 09:49, 12 giu 2019 (CEST)
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